1,200 pages and counting

I’ve read about 1,200 pages so far on winter break. I’m making note of that because I keep on feeling like I’m not getting anything done, and yet, that’s substantial, no? I’ve also taken detailed notes (using keywords on zotero) on about 497 of those pages.

Here’s what I’ve read. You’ll see it differs from my original intent (mostly because I shifted my spring semester writing plans):

1. The Porning of America: The Rise of Porn Culture, What It Means, and Where We Go from Here by Carmine Sarracino

2. The Fallen Sky: An Intimate History of Shooting Stars by Christopher Cokinos (I’ve read half the book — then I left it at my parents house on Christmas)

3. The Armies of the Night by Norman Mailer

4. Slaughterhouse-five by Kurt Vonnegut

5. Pornified: How Pornography is Damaging Our Lives, Our Relationships, and Our Families by Pamela Paul

6. Lots of goodies from the current issue of Tin House.

Serious ADHD Likely!

go ahead and pretend you are surprised.

I love that they have an html box so you can tell all your friends.

But, I can’t imagine, even though I assume a psychiatrist could happily diagnose me and prescribe some pills, that I would want to kill all those awesome thoughts bouncing around in my skull. Oh no no no no.

It’s nice though to have considered this. I’ve never once considered it before. Especially because I’ve always done well in school. Yet, my memories of my young young youth have made me wonder if I am bound to end up schizophrenic, as I experienced a constant and permanent torrent of thoughts, tied together and disparate all at once, flying back and forth, jumping from one thing to the next like that BING.com commercial (search overload?), until once my mother invited me to make a list of everything on my mind, and I ended up with like six pages of single items my mind had thought of, all of it coming quicker than I could write, and without additional effort.

And then I’d wake up in the middle of the night with my senses severely impaired, or inversely impaired, as in, apparently heightened. I’ve never taken a hallucinogen, but I sort of imagine what I experienced is a bit like that, as my thoughts jumped out into the scenery, and the qualities of objects, like their distance from me, their size, their quantity (as in a shelf of books), became terrifying to me. I curled up once on the couch and whispered over and over to myself that “I don’t have to read all the books, I don’t have to read all the books.”

And the audible effects! Sounds became thunderous and whispered voices echoed again and again as shouts, except they sounded just as they had — the quality of a whisper being somehow carried now with the experience of a shout. And so forth (I just finished Slaughterhouse Five).

And now I think that perhaps this is indicative of something like ADHD. Although I find the entire idea rather boring, for my purposes, since I suffer no depression and seem to, in fact, be doing ok. Sure, I annoy all my friends, but I could just glue my mouth closed instead. Maybe that would make me smarter, with all those malformed thoughts stuck in there, festering, sprouting, blooming.

Summer Fellowship, Norman Mailer Writers Colony

The Norman Mailer Writers Colony has finally updated their page about the 2010 summer Fellowships. (I’ll be headed there as part of having won the nonfiction award in 09.)

It used to say “In 2009, Don Delillo visited the colony….”

Now it says, “. . . distinguished writers, such as William Kennedy, Gay Talese, and Don Delillo, will visit the Mailer home during the Fellowship program to share their professional experiences with the Fellows.”

UPDATE, Jan 17 2o1o

Changed again, Delillo and Kennedy appear to not be a sure thing, since the recent mailing puts it this way: “In 2009 seven Fellows spent four weeks in Provincetown, Massachusetts where they wrote, discussed their work, and were visited by writers such as Don DeLillo; editors and writers from leading publications such as the New York Review of Books and Vanity Fair.  In 2010 Gay Talese will visit the colony as well as other leading writers to be named.”

Surprisingly, that’s not really disappointing. One can never know if good writers will be good mentors or teachers of writing anyway.

End of UPDATE

That’s in addition to the entire month being staffed by James Magnuson and/or Greg Curtis. Magnuson is the director of the University of Texas at Austin MFA program—the Michener Center—which is the most selective MFA (fiction/poetry only) in the country with a yearly acceptance rate of 10-12 out of 800 applicants or so. That’s because they offer the best fellowship in the country—25,000 dollars a year—and don’t require their MFA students to teach undergraduate courses. Three years, 25 grand a year, no teaching. Almost makes one want to take up fiction writing.

Greg Curtis has some big magazine awards and credentials, wrote a book that grabs my attention called The Cave Painters: Probing the Mysteries of the World’s First Artists, and is the “humanities coordinator” at the University of Texas at Austin. (U T Austin is where the Mailer archives are located.)

The Mailer Colony is currently accepting applications for the 28 day summer fellowship, and for the 12 week-long workshops on various topics (everything from “young adult fiction” to “Biography: Identification with the Subject”). Go here, and click around. The page is in flash or something, so it’s hard to link directly to each section.  The fellowships are paid for aside from food and travel, and the weeklong workshops are mostly paid for, aside from a $225 administrative fee. In other words, housing and tuition is covered.

Applications due by March 13.

Thank You, Obama

Dear President Obama,

I wanted to personally thank you for helping me realize in such a quick manner that I cannot make a difference. I promise I’ll never vote again. How naive were we all to think that knocking on doors and making calls and writing  letters and leaving voice messages for senators could actually earn us the things we voted for — public option health care, recognition of gay rights, higher taxes on the rich?

Seriously, how very naive of us.

Protesting was fun. Making signs is really a kick. Chants are fantastic. Love chants. The joy of being hung up on by all five of Nebraska Senator Ben Nelson’s offices! Seriously, it was all fun, fun and games, and I realize that now. Oh, the silly things people say about “having a voice” and “being an informed citizen.” I mean, come on. It’s embarassing. It really is embarassing. And I’m just really, really, really glad that you, President Obama, absolutely squashed every last bit of it out of me at least before I was 25. At least no one I meet from here on out has to know I actually took the time to vote in my ignorant past.

Enjoy your champagne after signing the biggest excuse for a health care bill that could be potentially conceived.

Should have voted for Hill—ah! the stubborn habits of youth—of course it doesn’t matter who I should have or could have or would have or might in the future vote for. One person cannot make a difference. Not in America.

Me Mentioned in London Mag Finch’s Quarterly

This is really really cool. 2009 National Book Award winner Colum McCann (Let the Great World Spin) published an article in the London Magazine Finch’s Quarterly Review about the Norman Mailer Writer’s Colony, and he was kind enough to include mention of me in the article as the winner of the Norman Mailer College Nonfiction Writing Award:

The $10,000 college writing award went to John Gilmore, a senior at Utah State University. A shiver went through the crowd as the award was announced, with some people wondering if he was perhaps related to Gary Gilmore of Executioner’s Song fame. It turned out that he wasn’t, but nothing would have surprised the audience, given that the ghost of Mailer was hanging around, knocking over the bellinis and looking for a serious Scotch.

Articles like McCann’s invigorate me. It seems every article I read about Mailer thrills me (check out this 2007 article about Mailer by Tom Junod for Esquire). It’s all very lucky that the judges had good breakfasts or a nice espresso on the morning they picked up my essay, and all of the measurable results of the Mailer award are fantastic (the monetary prize, the fellowship at the colony in 2010, and getting email from Larry Schiller with attached articles with my name in them, among other things), but I also received (and keep receiving) an immeasurable psychological lift from imagining that, as the inaugural winner, I have the privilege and responsibility to take a cue from the man himself:

If ever there was a  man with his finger on the pulse, it was Mailer, pushing the wrong way through swinging doors. He wrote as if his very life depended on it, and often it did. He wanted to be at the heart of whatever was important . . . . By opening up Mailer’s name, [Larry Schiller] brings it out from the realm of the gone but at the same time he gives the name to others. Schiller knows that a whole generation of new writers—ones who push the edge, and perhaps even become the edge—will emerge from the Mailer awards. The best way to keep a name alive is to allow the name to keep changing.

See, that’s going to help me get off the computer and return to the litterbox room / office and stare at the wall for a few more hours until I get the first terrible draft of that essay scribbled down.

I can’t seem to link to the article. Here’s a Jpeg.

Also, you can look at the HEY NEWS link on the top right of the blog for other newspaper and magazine mentions, although I doubt you are as excited about it as I am.

Researching with Zotero

I’ve started reading for my thesis research, and I’m using Zotero to organize everything. Zotero is a Firefox extension that enormously simplifies your life. Download Zotero here. It’s free. My friend Will taught me about Zotero. Thanks Will.

Basically, if I’m using an online library database—finding peer reviewed articles, say—I click on an icon that pops up, and Zotero saves every detail of the citation. I can do the same for any web page on the internet. And best of all, it does the same for books. I use the library database to find any book in the world, click the icon that pops up, and all the bibliographic information is stored to Zotero automatically.

So, I end up with a permanent list of every single site or article or book I might be interested in, and if I copy and paste the text from a site or a news article or a peer reviewed publication into the annotation box in Zotero, or, if I write up a word file and paste the text as a note, that’s all searchable.

So, here’s how it works out: I’ve got a list of books, sites, academic articles, and even links to various advertising photographs with written descriptions. Each of the internet sources is linked to the original location, but I also copy and paste the text into the notes. Then, as I read a book, I make notes like this (the numbers are pages):

39 puritanism, shame, guilt

43 stats, poll

44 comcast, VHS,  Hotels, pay per view,

46 Civil war and pornography

The end result is that I have entire books indexed by keywords, and it’s all completely searchable. If I need to find all the stats about hotels and pay per view pornography sales, I type “hotel” into the search field, and my database shows that I have information on “hotel” or hotels in chapter 2 of the book Pornified, and in Forbes.com article “Porn goes public,” and on one wikipedia site I’ve saved. I click my note for Chapter 2 of pornified, copy and paste it into my word processor, do a search for hotel, and find that Pornified talks about hotels on page 55. This takes about 10 seconds total.

I only have about 20 items in my library right now, and I think that after I have 200, this will be quite useful for me.

The weakness is that Zotero doesn’t highlight the word ‘hotel’ within the note — so I have to copy and paste it into a word processor to find what page it’s on. Does anyone else have a better solution? I could consider making a note for every single page I’m interested in, especially once I’m using books where I only need a chapter or two (right now I’m reading these ‘overview’ books that are useful cover to cover). Then, when searching for ‘hotel,’ instead of showing me “pornified chapter 2″ it would bring up the folder for pornified page 55. Of course, with many topics, I’ll have to re-read the entire chapter anyway—I don’t know. The particulars of research are so complicated. I like systems. Who has a better system? Let me know.

e-Books Will Take Over and That’s OK.

The recent news on digital books suggests 2009 will be looked back on as the turning point, the time when e-books became a legitimate force in the reader’s market. 2010 is predicted to hold an explosion of the e-book business.

There are big publishing interests attempting to fight against the move to digital books by withholding digital versions of their big titles several months, forcing avid readers to purchase the hardcover versions for $27 instead of Amazon’s kindle version for $9.99.

Within five years, those big publishing companies will have lost that battle, and the e-book market will have absolutely exploded. Completely taken over. Seriously. Quote me. December 18, 2014: e-books are enormously more popular than “binding with attached fragment of tree.”

Here is why people are fighting the e-book  avalanche, why they will lose, and why I think that’s probably fine.

Why They Fight

Publishing houses are fighting because:

1. They make a lot more on a hardcover book than they will make on a digital version.

2. 6 of them currently dominate the market, and they will not be able to easily transition into the digital world

3. For all the pretending that digital books are “unsharable,”  the same twelve year olds who can hack into the iPhone, the Pentagon, and your personal computer will easily find a way to make e-books as shareable as mp3s are. The publishers have to know this, and know they will face the same annihilation that the recording industry faces.

Agents:

1. I bet some agents fear the above scenario — the dismantling of the publishing houses — and how it leads directly to them losing their jobs. Agents are the middle man between the writer and the publishing house. They make their money off advances those houses pay. If those houses can’t pay advances because they can’t make money, can an agent still exist?

Bookstores:

1. Small, independent bookstores are already dying, and this will kill them further. Except in the sense that they become “Antique Book Stores” who carry “books” the way a record store today carries vinyls.

2. Borders/Barnes and Noble will have to completely transform their business, I don’t even know how, or disappear.

Authors:

1. The “Metallica” authors will complain their work is being stolen (it is) when seven-year-olds hack into and alter the digital formats so they are fully transferable.

2. Some authors seem to think it’s critical to have the publishing houses “screen out” weak writing and be the gatekeepers of good writing.

Readers:

1. I love tree books! They smell good and feel good and taste good!

2. Readers like bookstores. I love to just go be in them, even big ones like borders. I like the cafe. I like the couches. I like reading and not paying for magazines.

3. Good-old-day-ism. Humans tend to believe that what has been happening in the past is the best way for something to happen, and we also tend to view particular habitual behavior associated with technology as the only use for that technology (for example, we imagined the future of telephone usage to be video conferencing, rather than imagining the future of telephone usage as being permanent interconnection to the world through the internet, and cultural shifts making it acceptable to stay in touch with friends exclusively through text rather than talk). Online forums on this ebook subject suggest complaints sound a bit like this: “Soon people will be bluetoothing the ebooks to their earbuds and LISTENING to the whole damn thing, rather than actually pouring over a story and becoming emotionally involved in it!” or “Who want’s to cuddle up near the fire with an electronic tablet?” or “Kids these days want everything so fast…reading is about slowing down and checking out, about driving to the bookstore and browsing the shelf,” or, “A full bookshelf is a beauty never to be replaced by a full file,” or, my favorite: “In ten years I’ll ask my son to let me borrow a book, and he’ll look at me funny and say, ‘you can’t lend books.’” (Again, does anyone seriously think we won’t be sharing digital copies of books—that the publishers will succeed in locking the digital files away, one reader per download, one week of sharing allowed? haha, yeah, sure.)

Why They Lose

Recession

1. A certain large number of people who would have otherwise held onto their book-purchasing habits will shift to digital because a) they are moving to a smaller apartment and they realize that it’s both cheaper to move and store digital files, or b) they can get all their old favorite classics for a buck on their reader, or c) the cost savings of a $9.99 book are so significant as to merit them taking the plunge into cuddling up by the fire with a metal tablet (and by the way, they kinda like the tablet, because it’s light, doesn’t hurt their wrists, doesn’t flip closed, doesn’t require constant shifting, and soon—astoundingly soon—mere pages into their first ebook experience—they realize that it’s the story that they were always in love with, not the tree sheets).

2. Publishers and bookstores, as their numbers continue to flounder, take a leap into the digital market in hopes of surviving. It won’t work—they’ll still sink—but when the ship is on fire, you jump.

Youth

1. They are really smart, but they won’t really read books until books make themselves available to them, and they will take advantage of them when they do. That might be after they can share audioversions of them for free (illegally or otherwise) with each other, and when they can amass an enormous library in an afternoon, and plenty of “good-old-days-ers” will feel that this is a complete defamation of literature, but regardless of all complaints, it will happen. Suddenly, instead of the average kid owning and listening to 10 CDs and the radio, the average kid owns and listens to hundreds (and no radio). Same, but for books. Reading and listening.

Why That’s Okay

1. I’m an optimist and find it’s best to be happy about inevitable things.

2. Students are going to freaking love digital books. Undergrads will love love love fully searchable textbooks and novels. As it is now, students read about the first six pages of a text book, then attempt to cram before an exam, mostly off notes, cracking a book here and there. They read the occasional chapter from the assigned novel. Imagine the lecturer/professor assigning weekend reading circa 2018: “Read up on errors in enzyme creation, and evidence for and against punctuated equilibrium. There’s a few paragraphs of summary early in the text, a nice summary somewhere later on, and if I were you I’d look at the case study.” Of course, students legitimately interested in this aspect of the text will be able to link immediately to external sources cited (as links) in the text, to blogs, news articles, and academic articles on the subject. Imagine the English professor: “For your essay, I want you to pick 2 or three reoccuring words — words that show up again and again throughout the six hundred pages — and analyze the authors choice of use. The idea here is to take a look at how this author cultivates particular themes subtly but clearly intentionally.”

3. Graduate students and researchers will absolutely freaking freaking love it. Every single book just became fully, 100% indexed. As search function improves, it will be unimaginably helpful (literally, we can’t imagine). But even with our current search capabilities: “Where was that single sentence that I wanted to quote?” Oh yeah, page 2,204. “Where’s that endnote? footnote? citation?” right here, in text, as an electronic link directly to the source. To the freaking page. “Do any other texts in this library use this spelling of the ancient culture I’m writing about?” Ok, six other books, one published in 1858. And look, nineteen peer reviewed articles.

4. As a future author: Currently it’s estimated (in I think it was the Jan/Feb Poets and Writer’s, when a half drunken agent speculated this and a second half drunken agent seconded) that about 100 authors in the US make enough money writing books to live off. Whether or not that number drops really matters only a whole lot to about 100 people in the US, and I’m not going to be one of them (neither are you, by the way). We know we’ll have to teach or otherwise work anyway. The difference, then, might be that we don’t get a 50,000 dollar advance. We get a 0 dollar advance, but we are lucky enough, and good enough writers, maybe, to get an editor and a print of a couple hundred hard cover books (like vinyls). On our digital copies, the unpirated versions, we include video introduction and interviews etc., and perhaps that radio essay we wrote that didn’t make it on This American Life, and so, we, as people, are in some ways more connected to our work in our reader’s mind. More than just a name on the cover, but a producer of an full digital experience—a bit more like an album of music. Our text is interactive, whether it be a researched nonfiction work that provides links to various web resources or cited sources, or merely pertinent footnotes that otherwise would seem tacky or just take up too much print space. Of course, we can include within our digital books updating information about our new publications and our book tours—we could even have a blog within the book, so a reader can type a question while reading, and an author can respond.  The possibilities are actually quite diverse, and there is plenty of room for art.

Secondly, I do believe the digital revolution of books will give me a lot more readers, particularly young readers and international audiences. Books and text books will also be more affordable and accesible for impoverished populations worldwide. I do make the assumption that broadband internet will be available in a lot of places worldwide that it currently isn’t available in.

5. Obviously, it can’t hurt to not be destroying as many trees. I don’t know enough to make any passionate comment on this. For all I know most books are printed on recycled paper. I don’t know.

6. The more we get comfortable reading digitally, the less we see digital as being ‘lower quality’ than print, so prestigious literary journals would be able to publish digitally while maintaining more of a sense of prestige. This saves money and makes them less dependent on flaky university funding and subscriptions.

What Do We Lose?

I think it’s hard to say. We definitely lose jobs in the industry, which sucks (I think, because I think it sounds fun to work in the industry as it currently is).  Also:

1. The accidental discovery of connections between two things that comes inadvertently as a result of old fashioned, slow research. And yet, researchers who understand the importance of this will always keep classic research methods in mind, I’d imagine. I know I will.

2. The ego boost and publicity boost of getting published (I know I will miss it, but maybe other people aren’t as ego driven as me). Just like how bands these days can create great music on independent labels, I suspect the level of writing in self-published books will rise in the ebook future (currently, in the book business, self-published books are pretty bad because they are self-published BECAUSE no major press would publish them). These days, if a musician were to say they signed a deal “with a record label,” we might look at them funny. Who hasn’t? Authors might not be able to distinguish themselves the way they currently can through publication. In a way, this transition in music has led to more people actually listening to and scrutinizing bands, at all levels, rather than merely accepting something as good because it’s on the radio. Most everyone I know wouldn’t hesitate to claim that music artists on independent labels are as talented as those on major labels.

3. Do we lose author tours and book signings? I don’t know. I don’t think so. But maybe, if we lose bookstores. I tend to think we can make up for this with digital interaction and more visible connection between the writer and her book.

So, I wonder what you think

I Rarely Listen to Music These Days, But…

My younger, hip-er brother just sprung a well established band upon me—one which most of you probably already listen to or have decided not to listen to. But, for any who, like me, have been disconnected from the music world for about six years, you might want to listen to Murder by Death.

Start here:

Boy Decide

Why?

I like his low voice.

I like their pop -ish melodies.

I like their unpretentious but artistic lyrics.

And this is my younger hipper brother:

Writing is Plain Hard Work

Sometimes people think writing well is some sort of magic trick. Like it just happens, just spills out of a brain onto a page. I think people who are bad at writing think this and therefore don’t attempt to become better. I think people who enjoy writing start thinking like this after they have completed the late stages of a piece — making it nice and shiny and glossy. Then, they return to the beginning of a new piece and have this moment of terror in which they think they’ve lost it, that this new piece won’t work, that it’s complete crap.

Andrew, my wise friend, recently noted aloud that, really, what makes an essay or story work is merely time put into it. It’s almost that simple. And I agree. It’s fun to pretend there are forces working against me (writer’s block, or bad ideas, or an overload of creative ENERGYEEE!), or that I’m destined to fail on the next project. It’s fun to pretend this because all of it makes for a wonderful excuse.

But, of course, writing well is just like doing anything else well. It just takes work. A weird sort of work. The sort where you sit around and check your wordpress stats more than anything else really, all while your temperature rises and your heart beat increases and you start feeling like a complete failure.

Writing is just plain old hard. No Magic.

Of course, it’s not hard like “I’m working 80 hours a week at minimum wage” hard. That’s a whole different kind of hard. But writing is just hard enough for people who don’t know what really hard means to call really hard. People like me.

Right now, I’m pushing myself to finish an essay and revise for the next couple weeks and then submit it to a particular literary journal. It’s the first time I’ve assigned myself to write a creative piece without a class deadline. It’s an odd sensation. It requires some justification in my mind. I can justify personal essays for class. But to start thinking of myself as someone who will be a writer—my mind is surprisingly stubborn about the concept. Just like when I started in Journalism instead of English as a freshman in college, I’m still resistant to the idea that I can find a career in art.

Searched for pornography all afternoon in the library

I’m writing my thesis, tentatively, on the influence of pornography on culture. I know that story has been written a few times before, but I still think there is plenty more to be said.

This does get a bit interesting when I’m in the library computer lab researching for peer-reviewed articles on all things pornography while people walk past and whisper, or when  I hand the checkout desk a stack of 11 books with titles like “Pornofied” and “Pornography in America.”

Wendy, head librarian at USU, was helping me find some books and telling me about how a couple students were writing short papers critical of pornography this semester, and how she’d been helping one of them find sources on the internet and then basically shouted in a moment of epiphany: Search for ‘erotica!’ —and then everyone in the lab was either giggling or horrified.

Looks like I’m in for about two years of jokes that will get old fast. But not yet.

This taboo surrounding even the word pornography in conservative culture really plays into the stuff I’m most interested in writing about. Why was Utah the number one state for paid-for internet pornography use? The Harvard study that indicated that about Utah says nothing, really, about porn consumption in Utah (it surely is indicative of the fact that in Utah people are more likely to pay for porn on the internet than buy it in public, or maybe that people in other states are better at getting porn for free), but it is nevertheless intriguing.

You can use Google Trends to see which places are searching for particular words. Google Trends brings up not your usual search results, but the PLACE that is searching the most for that term (in the entire world, or in specific regions if you choose). I just ran several searches on ‘soft-core’ words, limiting my results to the USA, to see which locations are are the chief searchers for those terms. The following means pretty much nothing at all. But it sure is interesting.

Search term:

“Girls Undressing”

1.	Salt Lake City, UT, USA
2.	Richardson, TX, USA
3.	Orlando, FL, USA
4.	Tampa, FL, USA
5.	Boston, MA, USA
6.	Seattle, WA, USA
7.	Philadelphia, PA, USA
8.	Minneapolis, MN, USA
9.	Irvine, CA, USA
10.	St Louis, MO, USA

*

“Nude Girls”

1.	Salt Lake City, UT, USA
2.	Louisville, KY, USA
3.	Tampa, FL, USA
4.	Richardson, TX, USA
5.	Orlando, FL, USA
6.	St Louis, MO, USA
7.	Irvine, CA, USA
8.	Las Vegas, NV, USA
9.	Los Angeles, CA, USA
10.	Reston, VA, USA

*

“Girls Gone Wild”

1.	Salt Lake City, UT, USA
2.	Louisville, KY, USA
3.	Oklahoma City, OK, USA
4.	San Antonio, TX, USA
5.	Houston, TX, USA
6.	Detroit, MI, USA
7.	Irvine, CA, USA
8.	Orlando, FL, USA
9.	St Louis, MO, USA
10.	Richardson, TX, USA

*

“Girls in Underwear”

1.	Salt Lake City, UT, USA
2.	Rochester, NY, USA
3.	Cincinnati, OH, USA
4.	Elmhurst, IL, USA
5.	St Louis, MO, USA
6.	Pittsburgh, PA, USA
7.	Columbus, OH, USA
8.	Richardson, TX, USA
9.	Reston, VA, USA
10.	Denver, CO, USA

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“Breasts”

1.	Salt Lake City, UT, USA
2.	Portland, OR, USA
3.	Reston, VA, USA
4.	Rochester, NY, USA
5.	Seattle, WA, USA
6.	Richardson, TX, USA
7.	Newark, NJ, USA
8.	Minneapolis, MN, USA
9.	Cincinnati, OH, USA
10.	St Louis, MO, USA